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Ignition Upgrades Part 3

Pictures and information by Karl Schluter. Copyright.

Make you own magnetic Lucas distributor!

Mkl,ll Consul and Mkl-lll Zephyr, Zodiac Models.

 

You can fabricate your own magnetic trigger system inside you present older Lucas distributor if its bushes etc are sound and you can find donor parts compact enough to fit inside. Wreckers or car dismantler yards would be a great place to recycle a few parts and check out donor systems to adapt whether for just the single parts or a complete donor distributor as described further on. You will also need the donor cars matching module/amplifier. Wire these items as per the cars manufacturer and use a matching electronic coil. Also read the section on polarity below.

Lift the cap on some Chrysler Valiant, Ford electronic Aussie, NZ, US, and European models (Bosch and Motorcraft ) and some Japanese distributors. On the shaft under the rotor is often a reluctor which looks like a toothed cog (this is where your older points cam would be), it has the same number of teeth as cylinders in the engine the item is fitted too. A Pick up (a small coil on a magnet) is mounted near by on what would be the points vacuum advance plate. The pick up coil gets a signal from the toothed cog (reluctor) that then triggers the module to spark.

Before removing the reluctor and pick up coil unit from a distributor, measure the air gap (there's a picture below) between the furthers edge of a reluctor tooth, to the pick up coil (Use a brass or plastic feeler gauge). This air gap is to be kept once these parts are installed in the Lucas distributor.

Some Auto Electrical places sell Japanese/Bosch pick ups plus Summit and Jegs mail order shops sell a Ford type pick up and reluctor separately, (made for MSD ). They are fairly priced too.

Note: I have chosen the Magnetic system as a conversion because it is one of the most common and reliable.

Below is a basic guide that outlines how to convert a Lucas points distributor:

Install:

The parts must not foul with the fit and movement of the rotor or the base of the vacuum advance plate (make sure when mocking up that everything clears).

The Zephyr distributor points cam lobe area can be bushed or machined to have a donor toothed reluctor slipped over it (make sure the reluctor is centred correctly), the workshop manual shows how to remove the cam lobe assembly. Have a provision to lock the reluctor in place with a setscrew or a hardened pin after the following mounting of the pick up coil on the points plate is completed. Remember to have the right tooth count reluctor, if working on a 4 cylinder, use a 4-tooth reluctor (a V8 reluctor can also be used if every other tooth is removed), otherwise for 6 cylinder cars a 6-toothed reluctor is used.

It’s important in the next step that the manufacturers air gap from the donor distributor is kept (below). This is the air gap between the tooths furthest point and the pick up coil as stated by the donor manufacturer. Use the air gap taken as mentioned above when these parts were first removed. If you don’t have the measurement or brought these parts new, look up the correct air gap in a workshop manual for the donor car at your nearest library.

Set the pick-ups base on the vacuum advance plate (the same place as points would mount). Keeping the correct air gap as mentioned between the reluctor and magnetic pick up coil, (use a brass or plastic feeler gauge) mark the pick up coil base mounting holes. Some, but not all, pick-ups have an adjustment slot like a points base. When you mark the hole in this slot, mark it midway to allow for later air gap adjustment either way.

Then remove the now marked vacuum advance plate (after removing the reluctor) and drill and tap the plate to mount the pick up coil.

After mounting the pick up coil to the points vacuum advance plate, install the plate back in the Lucas distributor body (or screw the pick up coil on after reinstalling the advance plate) and then put the donor reluctor back on and secure it in place with the set screw etc, (Do not fully lock the reluctor in place until you have covered the need for rotor phasing as mentioned later). Recheck the air gap and add your cars rotor. Make a last check by turning the shaft of the distributor by hand to check that everything clears inside, sometimes you can feel the pull of the magnet.

Phasing:

Phasing is the alignment of the rotor to the spark plug terminal when a spark is fired.

Why bother with Phasing? A high power ignition spark will be more likely to jump to another terminal than the one its suppose to go too if phasing is out, more so in a small cap. This is why most performance caps are wider between terminals now if room allows. A wider placement of the spark plug terminals in the cap helps to ensure the spark from the rotor goes to the correct plug, thus minimising a misfire. This leads to a smoothing running engine at higher rpm as well.

Because in a vacuum advance distributor the vacuum advance plate is moving due to engine vacuum, correct phasing is more of a compromise. Aftermarket distributors without vacuum advance are checked and set at the factory.

How to check phasing:

This step is often over looked in modifying distributors and even factory systems can be out of phase. Setting the Lucas distributor on the 4th line of its vernier vacuum canister scale as mentioned above in the points section sets a Lucas point system up close. There is a number of methods to check phasing. The mechanical advance (weights and springs) does not change the phasing as the rotor to points cam (or rotor to reluctor/shutter) relationship does not change. It’s hard to get it exact on a vacuum advance distributor as this setting changes as the vacuum advance plate moves, it is still however worth checking.

To do a converted distributor you need a basic timing light and a spare sound distributor cap. Drill a 3/8 or bigger hole (slowly with a smaller pilot hole first) carefully between the coil post and the (any one) spark plug terminal, you may decide instead to section the cap as in the picture below. You need to drill closer to the spark plug terminal (to be able to watch the rotor tip inside) or the caps side if you can view it easy enough once its clipped in place, pick a terminal with room around it to view inside of as the engine runs.

Highlight the centre of the rotors tip with “twink” or a dab of white paint. Clip the timing light lead onto the spark plug lead terminal that has the hole drilled next to it.

1,Carefully watching for moving parts, focus the timing light into the distributor cap hole with the engine running at idle speed and the vacuum advance line unhooked and plugged, the rotor should be to the RIGHT of the spark plug post (before the terminal going anti clockwise), mark the rotor position on the edge of the cap (use a felt tip pen etc).

2,Then with the vacuum advance line hooked back up and the engine at a fast idle, note the rotor position with the timing light again, it should now be to the LEFT of the spark plug post (after the terminal going anti clockwise) and re-mark it.

The idea is to later adjust it (if needed) so it would then in theory be pointing at the spark plug terminal mid way through the full range of vacuum advance (between both marks). Estimate the amount of degrees distance the rotor would need moved (and in which direction) to equal its spacing on either side of the spark plug terminal, with both the vacuum connected and unconnected (plugged).

Note: The rotor itself will hopefully not need to be repositioned, instead its position is being noted solely as a guide to show whether the phasing is out etc .The rotor phasing position will only need moved in one of two directions to even it up.

How to adjust Phasing:

With most models of Lucas distributors we are lucky to have the vernier dial on the outside body that by turning it (the dial) carefully will move the points mounting plate (now mounting the pick up coil). This changes the position of the pick up coil relative to the reluctor cog, in turn changing the timing of the spark firing as the rotor aligns with the spark plug terminal.

Adjust the phasing if needed (engine running and timing light shining into the cap) by turning the vernier dial to set the distance/direction you have estimated the rotor needs to move (the rotor position should move as you turn the vernier dial either way).

If this method does not bring the rotor into the correct setting,

1,Reposition the reluctor by rotating it a degree or two on the distributor shaft in either direction,*

2,Reposition the pick up coil on the vacuum advance plate (maintaining the correct air gap)

3,File the base of the distributor caps locating slots and turn it a few degrees in either direction.

4,Die grind out the locating tab inside the rotor, and use epoxy to make a new tab to relocate its position.

*Best of these 4 options.

Afterwards you can recheck you rotor position as described above, vacuum hooked up, and then unhooked (plugged).

NOTE: The above works ONLY for distributors turning ANTI CLOCKWISE (like Consul-Mkl-lll Zephyr,Zodiac), reverse the rotor positions if working on CLOCKWISE turning distributors.

Polarity:

The pick up coil has polarity! Wire the two wires from the donor pick up coil as per the cars wiring diagram for that donor models distributor first. Or follow the Aftermarket modules instructions for that Donor distributor parts manufacturer.

If the timing is way off on crank up, or the engine won’t start, try swapping over from side to side the two wires from the distributor pick up coil at its plug, this is more common if an aftermarket module/spark box is used. Keep these two wires away from the ignition coil or spark plug wires. Running the wires next to the frame or steel items can help stop EMI inference as can twisting the two long wires together as they exit the distributor body. The magnetic pick up coil often has a third wire, black in colour with a “Ring” terminal that is usually earthed to the engine block etc. Do check for this.

 

Continued in Ignition Upgrade Part 4

Do visit the Ignition Upgrade Part 5 for links, companies etc.

 

Disclaimer: The advice and guidelines given in these articles are given in good faith. The owners and managers of the Galeforce Zephyr site will take no responsibility for any injuries or loss sustained while carrying out the described tasks and procedures or any consequences arising.  Please read the Safety First Article

 

 

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